Musk declares his ultimate goal
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Again, the relationship a government has with its citizens is fundamentally different than the relationships that a corporation has with human beings.
Since government has necessary coercive powers (e.g. you can get thrown in prison if you do something very bad, or force you to fight in a war, or even seize your property under eminent domain) we keep government on a very short leash. We do that through exercising our civil rights like voting and also in the law we give government limited powers, at least in theory.
With corporations all of the relationships are largely controlled by the corporation and they can change the terms of those relationships at any time. If you as a customer or employee don't like those changes your only options are to cease to be a customer or cease to be an employee, which wouldn't be practical to do to the government. Shareholders are little bit better off but there are a near-infinite number of perfectly legal ways that corporations screw over shareholders all the time.
You can't privatize the courts.
You can't privatize who enforces the law.
You can't privatize who writes the laws.
Well, you can but it just won't work. In my view such ideas are as naive and stupid as communism and for the same reasons.
Since government has necessary coercive powers (e.g. you can get thrown in prison if you do something very bad, or force you to fight in a war, or even seize your property under eminent domain) we keep government on a very short leash. We do that through exercising our civil rights like voting and also in the law we give government limited powers, at least in theory.
With corporations all of the relationships are largely controlled by the corporation and they can change the terms of those relationships at any time. If you as a customer or employee don't like those changes your only options are to cease to be a customer or cease to be an employee, which wouldn't be practical to do to the government. Shareholders are little bit better off but there are a near-infinite number of perfectly legal ways that corporations screw over shareholders all the time.
You can't privatize the courts.
You can't privatize who enforces the law.
You can't privatize who writes the laws.
Well, you can but it just won't work. In my view such ideas are as naive and stupid as communism and for the same reasons.


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I've hit a nerve! 'Something vexes thee?' Lol
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For the record:
1) I have never lost an argument to you, cocks*cker. (See… I know bad words, too)
2) I know EXACTLY who I am talking to - a not very bright, poorly educated, not well-read, un-thinking goon.
Someone ignorant of Economics, US history, politics, tradition and State-craft over the last Century.
Someone who cares little for the people around him unless they look/sound and act like him.
Someone who is willing to be led around by a lying, cheating, convicted sexual-predator and FELON.
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dorankj wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 6:45 pm You dems always get nasty and personal when you don’t get everything your way and lose the argument, and with what was displayed last night, you’re NOT good people.
dorankj wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:42 pm I have no problem with that, just like FDR said. Maybe you should actually know who you’re talking to asshole.
For the record:
1) I have never lost an argument to you, cocks*cker. (See… I know bad words, too)
2) I know EXACTLY who I am talking to - a not very bright, poorly educated, not well-read, un-thinking goon.
Someone ignorant of Economics, US history, politics, tradition and State-craft over the last Century.
Someone who cares little for the people around him unless they look/sound and act like him.
Someone who is willing to be led around by a lying, cheating, convicted sexual-predator and FELON.
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Since DOGE hasn't been able to find fraud in the govt and has actually cost taxpayers money, what's the argument for privatization?
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You dems always get nasty and personal when you don’t get everything your way and lose the argument, and with what was displayed last night, you’re NOT good people.
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I have no problem with that, just like FDR said. Maybe you should actually know who you’re talking to asshole.
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Says the government employee with a bloated salary. Whose job could be easily privatized - and was 100 years ago. I suggest we go back to those days.dorankj wrote: Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:05 pm Government was NEVER supposed to try and do everything it’s trying to do now,(because it sucks at it!) remember ‘limited government’? 36 trillion in debt proves that.
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Government was NEVER supposed to try and do everything it’s trying to do now,(because it sucks at it!) remember ‘limited government’? 36 trillion in debt proves that.
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How does that work?
Are we citizens customers?
Are we shareholders?
Are we employees?
Also, if all government is privatized how are disputes handled?
Are we citizens customers?
Are we shareholders?
Are we employees?
Also, if all government is privatized how are disputes handled?


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Musk declares his ultimate goal
Framed by a guy who sees himself as a corporate raider, the ultimate raid is to privatize all govt
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