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BREAKING: CNN's top analyst Harry Enten drops a bomb on MAGA world, reveals that Donald Trump has "lost the political battle" over his brutal ICE crackdowns in Los Angeles — and brings the numbers to prove it.
The best part was when he explained exactly how effective the anti-Trump protests have been.
Keep up the pressure...
"Where are we? Well, I think we can say that Donald Trump has lost the political battle when it comes to what has happened out in Los Angeles," said Enten. "Donald Trump's net approval rating on the Los Angeles protests, look at this. Overall, way, way, way underwater at -15 points."
The images of masked ICE enforcers tearing apart families and denying due process to innocent people have been like something straight out of a fascist dictatorship. It's only natural that Americans would recoil in disgust at such nakedly authoritarian behavior.
"How about among Independents or those who don't identify with either major party?" Enten continued. "Way, even lower, look at that! -24 points on the net approval rating. And of course this is happening on what should be one of Donald Trump's — in fact, the best issue — for Donald Trump: immigration. And yet when it comes to these Los Angeles protests, 15 points underwater overall and 24 points underwater among Independents. No good!"
"What is the broader view about how Trump is acting and what he's doing when it comes to these arrests of immigrants?" asked Enten's co-host on the segment.
"Right. So you know, you see these numbers with concern to the Los Angeles protests, well let's widen it out a little bit and I think this sort of paints a picture for you in understanding why Donald Trump's net approval rating on the Los Angeles protests are as low as they are..." said Enten.
He explained that 49% of Americans believe that Trump has "gone too far" on immigrant arrests. Only 40% say that he gone "not too far."
"You got a nine point lead here and again among those Independents or other categories, you see 51% of them say 'Trump's gone too far' and what's so important to note is that this poll was taken after the Los Angeles protests started," he continued. "So this takes into account everything that's gone down in Los Angeles."
"At this particular point, if the protestors' idea was to focus the attention on Donald Trump and bring attention to his immigration policies and bring attention to the arrests that have been occurring of immigrants, it seems to me that those protests have been successful because you see here, 49% say Trump's gone too far compared to just 40% who say he's not gone too far," he went on. "And you don't have to be a mathematical genius to know 49% is larger than 40%"
"By quite a bit," said the co-host with a laugh. "All right, how are people feeling, Americans in general, about ICE in general as they're seeing what has been happening across the country — but specifically in Los Angeles?"
Enten explained that just 45% of Americans support more ICE raids at workplaces. 54% disapprove.
"And this again goes to what these protests were all about in the first place, these ICE arrests at work, and it does seem again that the American people are with the protestors on this," said Enten. "You see here the majority say that they disapprove of more ICE raids at workplaces. And I think it's so important to note, ICE has historically actually been rated fairly favorably but their favorability ratings have been going down as these raids have been going up."
"This is his core issue and he's losing on his core issue at this point. Again, he is losing in these protests," Enten added.
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More about malicious compliance in Trump's parade:

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Congratulations to Saturday's protestors 4 days later and still No King, guess your protest was successful
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That the 'no kings' morons have no point and no purpose only to 'protest' and yet have no idea what they even want! The 'self owns' really ARE the best, idiot. This whole line of argument will lead to exactly NOTHING.
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“Marching Toward Madness: What That Parade Screamed”
By Rob from Occasionalalities, USAF, Retired

Any veteran worth their salt could see it the moment the first boot hit the pavement.
That was no parade.
That was a protest.
Not by the public—but by the military itself.
June 14, 2025.
Washington D.C.
A “military display” designed to honor the Commander-in-Chief became an unintentional—or perhaps very intentional—act of uniformed insubordination.
Because anyone who’s ever worn the uniform, who’s ever suffered through the absurd misery of a change-of-command ceremony, knew immediately what they were looking at:
There was no cadence.
No rhythm.
No dress-right-dress.
No lockstep.
No dignity.
No lead NCO calling time.
No officer setting pace.
Just one sloppy, half-hearted, sluggish shuffle past the grandstand, like a jaded marching band limping home from a funeral, with a particularly sarcastic soldier, holding a drone over his doomed head as he marched, indicating the future most infantry.
If that performance had taken place during a wing-level change-of-command at any halfway decent Air Force base, the entire affair would’ve resulted in reprimands, corrections, reassignments.
You’d have seen “Article 15s” rain from the sky like confetti.**
But this wasn’t an accident.
This was allowed to happen. Deliberately.

The Silent Rebellion
Here’s what I think happened—and I say this as someone who’s spent enough time in uniform to recognize a mutiny when I see one.
Somewhere between the lieutenant colonels and the brigadier generals, an unspoken understanding took shape:
“We’re not going to punish you if this parade turns into a mess.
In fact, we expect it to.”
The lieutenants and captains got the nod.
The sergeants passed it down the chain.
The troops got the wink.
No one would be punished.
Why?
Because the generals already had cover.
They’d spoken to their Senate-confirmed superiors—the full generals and political appointees—and got assurances: “Let it fall apart. We won’t hold it against you.”
And that’s how it works.
Everyone in the military knows that getting from O-1 to O-6 takes brains, guts, and stamina.
But making it from Brigadier General to Full General?
That’s not about service.
That’s about politics.
Every one of those stars past the first one has to be confirmed by the Senate.
Which brings us to the Secretary of Defense.

The Booze and the Buffoon
Let’s be blunt: This whole debacle is what happens when you appoint a delusional alcoholic to run the Pentagon—someone whose entire identity is built around trying to impress a President who never served a day in uniform.
They thought they’d save money by skipping rehearsals.
Big mistake.
Because once you assign a soldier to temporary duty in Washington, they start pulling deployment pay—extra money, allowances, housing.
Cutting back on rehearsals didn’t shave costs; it just made the parade worse while still racking up the bill.
And what did we get for that price tag?
Marching sloppier than a kindergarten field trip, and a Commander-in-Chief sitting there—puffed up and grinning—like he just won Normandy.

The Real Cost of a Parade
Any veteran will tell you: the dumbest, most soul-killing thing you ever had to do in uniform was a goddamn parade.
Let’s break it down.
In the Air Force, even a squadron-level change of command means about 500 troops out in formation.
Not the 50-100 civilians seem to imagine.
I served in the 48th Security Forces Squadron at RAF Lakenheath.
Those parades weren’t symbolic; they were mandatory suffering.
You got hit with three rehearsals minimum:
1. “Who Forgot How to March” Re-Education Camp
Cops, cooks, desk jockeys—no one was safe. Triple-time lessons and helmet sweats.
2. “Does everyone’s uniform MATCH?”
Uniform Inspection
$9/month to keep your uniform squared away, and God help you if your ribbons were crooked.
3. The Final Dress Rehearsal
Two hours of statuesque hell: “Eyes Right,” “Parade Rest,” “About Face,” and don’t lock your knees unless you want to faint… and get punished for faking it.
Then comes actual parade day.
Haircuts at 0500.
Uniform pressed within an inch of its life.
Standing in formation in rain, heat, or the frozen grip of some base wind tunnel that seems engineered to shatter morale.

Larger Units, Larger Misery
It gets worse at the group level—1,400 personnel.
Think the 75th Mission Support Group.
And then it balloons into Wing Parades—like the 4th Fighter Wing or the 48th FW.
That’s 6,000–7,000 airmen standing silent while nothing flies, no repairs happen, and the Air Force grounds itself so the boss can hear a brass band.
It’s taxpayer money spent to not do our jobs so a colonel can give a speech no one remembers.
And if you pass out because it’s 95 degrees and you locked your knees too long?
You might be charged under Article 92 for “failure to obey a lawful order.”

A Spectacle for Civilians, A Nightmare for Troops
To the average onlooker, parades look inspirational.
To those in the ranks?
It’s sweat, waste, humiliation, and theatrical obedience.
And when you force a branch of the military to fake their loyalty for the camera, the truth leaks out—like it did on June 14.
Because if that was a show of strength?
Then I’m a dancing bear in a dress blues tutu.

The Ghost Who Took His Place
And let’s not forget who this parade was supposed to honor.
The man in the grandstand.
The one with five deferments.
The one with bone spurs.
You know what we call a man like that in the service?
“Fortunate son.”
Lucky.
And you know what we call the one who went to war in their place instead?
Dead.
We’ll never know the name of the soldier who filled that empty slot in Vietnam.
Maybe he made it back.
Maybe he didn’t.
But the math doesn’t lie—someone went.
Because someone always does.

🎸 Fortunate Scum
(To the tune of “Fortunate Son” by Creedence Clearwater Revival)
Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
Ooh, they’re red, white and blue.
And when the band plays “Hail to the Chief,”
They point the guns at me—not you.
It ain’t me, it ain’t me,
I ain’t your Fortunate Scum, no no.
It ain’t me, it ain’t me,
I ain’t the coward who run.
Some folks inherit star-spangled lies,
Send boys to bleed and cry.
But when the draft came knockin’ loud,
They waved those bone spurs high.
It ain’t me, it ain’t me,
I ain’t your mannequin toy.
It ain’t me, it ain’t me,
You don’t get to deploy me for your joy.
Five deferments carved in gold,
While others filled your slot.
A name unknown, a boy went down,
To die where you were not.
We marched, we ran, we stood in line,
We held the goddamn line.
But now you want us goose-stepped thin
To cover your decline?
It ain’t me, it ain’t me,
I ain’t your losers circus drum.
It ain’t me, it ain’t me,
I’m done being someone’s Fortunate Scum.

🪖 Never forget: every parade is a lie.
It’s not for us.
It’s not for them.
It’s for the cameras.
And sometimes, as it did on June 14, the troops tell the truth… by marching like they mean nothing at all.
—Rob
USAF Retired.
Bone spurs not included.
Although for the record, I had to take my physical twice because the first time they found a heart murmur, and nearly forbid me from entering - fortunately it had been checked and cleared up or been cleared up via pencil whip by the second physical the next day.

* * Civilian Translation:
An Article 15—named after Article 15 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)—is the military’s version of your boss pulling you into the office and saying, “You screwed up, but we’re not calling the cops… yet.”
It’s called non-judicial punishment (NJP), which is just a fancy way of saying “We’ll handle this in-house.”
The accused servicemember—be it a private or a lieutenant—can voluntarily agree to let their commanding officer act as judge, jury, and punishment-deliverer, rather than take their chances in a full-blown military trial known as a court-martial.
The military strongly encourages you to accept the Article 15.
Why?
Because even if your commander makes you rake sand or scrub latrines with a toothbrush, it’s still way better than rolling the dice in a court-martial.
Under an Article 15, the worst that can happen is:
• Reduction in rank
• Reduction in pay
• Extra duties or restrictions
• At absolute max, 60 to 90 days restriction or confinement (depending on rank), but never a felony conviction.
Now, if you say, “No thanks, I’ll take my chances in court,” you get a court-martial—an actual military trial.
That could be:
A summary court-martial (for minor stuff): one officer, no jury.
A special court-martial: more serious, includes a military judge, a JAG prosecutor and defense counsel, possibly a jury.
A general court-martial: the big one.
Usually 3–5 officers, felony-level charges, full-on legal warzone.
Maximum penalty?
Anything up to “death by firing squad.”
No kidding.
And here’s the real kicker: if you’re convicted in a court-martial, it goes on your record forever—like a felony.
So even if the charge was minor, like mouthing off, the record doesn’t care.
Felony.
No job. No vote. No gun.
Bad day.
So what happens in the real world?
Most troops, especially lower-ranking ones, take the Article 15.
They sign the paper, do their time, take their lumps, and live to see another PT formation.
That’s the military’s secret sauce: it discourages people from demanding real trials by making the consequences so steep that even innocent troops will sometimes take the deal.
Fast. Quiet. No lawyer fees. Just suck it up.
So when I say the soldiers in that sloppy parade weren’t worried about being punished?
I mean it.
There was no risk of an Article 15 for any of them—and if there was, the worst they’d get is a counseling memo saying: “Next time, try harder.-
This wasn’t rebellion.
It was theater.
And like all good theater, everyone knew their roles."
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Ah, but it wasn't 5 million at No Kings, it was a final tally of 13.14 which surpasses the historical 3.5%.
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I think we should keep in mind that even if the numbers were "only" five million, that is far too large a movement to suppress by force. But it probably isn't large enough by itself to move the needle very much.

My thinking is that five million across 2000+ protests says the average event had about 2500 people. Which seems low but averages are weird and not intuitive.

We also need to keep in mind that accurately counting large numbers of protesters is more art than science.
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And from HCR, today. This should make any person with 1/2 a brain pause…

“ [W]e must expand efforts to detain and deport Illegal Aliens in America’s largest Cities, such as Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York, where Millions upon Millions of Illegal Aliens reside. These, and other such Cities, are the core of the Democrat Power Center, where they use Illegal Aliens to expand their Voter Base, cheat in Elections, and grow the Welfare State, robbing good paying Jobs and Benefits from Hardworking American Citizens. These Radical Left Democrats are sick of mind, hate our Country, and actually want to destroy our Inner Cities—And they are doing a good job of it! There is something wrong with them. That is why they believe in Open Borders, Transgender for Everybody, and Men playing in Women’s Sports—And that is why I want ICE, Border Patrol, and our Great and Patriotic Law Enforcement Officers, to FOCUS on our crime ridden and deadly Inner Cities, and those places where Sanctuary Cities play such a big role. You don’t hear about Sanctuary Cities in our Heartland!”

The post promised ICE that “REAL Americans are cheering you on every day” and urged them to “reverse the tide of Mass Destruction Migration that has turned once Idyllic Towns into scenes of Third World Dystopia.” It doubled down on the neo-Nazi idea of “REMIGRATION” and concluded: “To ICE, FBI, DEA, ATF, the Patriots at Pentagon and the State Department, you have my unwavering support. Now go, GET THE JOB DONE! DJT”
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Interestingly, the post is from a 2020 interview asking about the George Floyd protests. What it does demonstrate is that Trump has been incoherent for years.
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You already know what his response will be, Ray…..
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- Biden had dementia,
- It’s all Hunter’s/Hillary’s/Obama’s fault,
- your post is a fake,
- trump is a patriot and should be king forever,
- protesters and agitators are all communists and are always guilty….unless they were at J6 and believe what I do,
- I dont have to post any sources, any logical rebuttal, or any real argument….because I have ‘common sense’.
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- why are you such a d*ckhead, dumbazz, f*ckstick - or whatever playground insult is in the front of his lizard brain - this week.
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So Ken... Can you translate this into understandable english??? WTF is he trying to say???
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The tallies for No Kings are in and they show attendance at an astonishing 13.14 million! That number exceeds the 3.5% needed to meet the historical records where tyrants are displaced by the people.

"The "3.5% rule" refers to a research finding that nonviolent movements achieving a sustained participation of at least 3.5% of a population have never failed to bring about change. This means that governments are highly unlikely to withstand such a challenge. The rule is based on studies of historical movements and suggests that nonviolent resistance is more effective than violent conflict. "
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"I. Is Donald Trump not a threat to the US Constitution?
II. When Donald Trump threatens or ignores Habeas Corpus, which requires the government to provide a public reason to detain or imprison people, is he not in violation of Article I, Section 9, Clause 2 of the Constitution?
III. By selling World Liberty Financial tokens in which Donald Trump and his family have a claim on 75% of revenues, and inviting his biggest financial backers to the White House, and accepting a $400 M jet from Qatar for both official and private use and which will cost The People multiple times more to adapt to the presidency, is Donald Trump not in blatant violation of Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution, the Emoluments Clause?
IV. By defunding entire government agencies (and the parties they fund, including universities), impounding or misusing Congressional funds, is Donald Trump not in blatant violation of Article I which gives Congress the power of the purse, and of Article II, Section 2, Clause 2, the Appointments Clause, as DOGE was never approved by Congress and Elon Musk was never confirmed by the Senate?
V. By claiming, via executive order, that only he and the attorney general are responsible for the interpretation of the law, is Donald Trump not in blatant violation of Article III of the Constitution, which establishes the judicial branch?
VI. By targeting the media and students for their free speech, including ex post facto, is Donald Trump not in blatant violation of the First Amendment?
VII. By having federal agents search people’s private communications and attempt to enter their homes without a warrant, is Donald Trump not in blatant violation of the Fourth Amendment?
VIII. By deporting aliens without any due process, is Donald Trump not in blatant violation of the Fifth Amendment?
IX. By targeting law firms, via executive order, which have represented his rivals, is Donald Trump not in blatant violation of the First, the Fifth and the Sixth Amendments?
X. By targeting birthright citizenship, is Donald Trump not in blatant violation of the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1?
XI. By targeting US citizens for deportations to foreign prisons and by designating people protesting at his largest benefactor’s company as terrorists, is Donald Trump not in blatant violation of the Eighth Amendment?
XII. By attempting to run for a third term, is Donald Trump not in blatant violation of the Twenty-second Amendment?
XIII. By doing a Tesla infomercial at the White House, is Donald Trump not in violation of 5 CFR § 2635.702?
XIV. By pardoning domestic terrorists who attempted to overthrow the results of an election, is Donald Trump not in violation of the Electoral Count Act?
XV. By destroying records of USAID, an organization which theretofore was investigating the alleged use of Starlink terminals by Russia in Ukraine, is Donald Trump not in the violation of the Records Act?
XVI. By stating that he does not know if he has to uphold the Constitution, by flouting two Supreme Court decisions, including a unanimous one, by harassing, threatening and arresting judges and Congress members conducting oversight, by removing qualified personnel on the basis of color, gender, sexual orientation or identity, or creed, as well as inspectors general and military JAGS, by grotesquely threatening to use the National Guard or the Military against Democrats, by declaring his admiration for MBS and having America’s CEOs line up to shake and whitewash his hand, indelibly soaked in Jamal Khashoggi’s blood, is Donald Trump not making his disdain for the Law and Justice clear?
XVII. By invoking fake wars and invasions, is Donald Trump not in violation of the Alien Enemies Act?
XVIII. By flirting with the Insurrection Act without justification, is Donald Trump not endangering the security and welfare of foreigners and US citizens alike?
XIX. By putting people indefinitely in overcrowded detainment centers without due process and without adequate food, water, medicine and sanitation, places where a number of them have already died, is Donald Trump not a threat to Human Rights?
XX. By having Anton Postolnikov, a Putin ally, save Trump Media, is Donald Trump not beholden to Vladimir Putin?
XXI. By extorting Ukraine for minerals and refusing to give her military guarantees, putting tariffs on America’s Allies and threatening their sovereignty, is Donald Trump not deliberately destabilizing the West, acting like Vladimir Putin’s puppet and being a threat to the post-World War II US-led World Order?
XXII. Are you not concerned about Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov stating earlier this year that Trump was "rapidly changing [US] foreign policy configurations” and that “This largely coincides with our vision”?
XXIII. If Donald Trump is indeed giving aid and comfort to Vladimir Putin, a foreign enemy, is he not a TRAITOR and is he not in violation of Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution?
XXIV. If Donald Trump is America’s Hitler, as JD Vance previously observed, and if he poses a danger to the Constitutional Republic, to Human Rights and to the World Order, is Congress not going to immediately act and peacefully but swiftly and decisively remove Donald Trump, a man regarded by most Americans as a “dangerous dictator”, from office?
XXV. By sending the Marines and the National Guard to California, is Donald Trump not in blatant violation of, respectively, the Posse Comitatus Act and the Tenth Amendment of the US Constitution?
XXVI. Given that Donald Trump incited an insurrection against the United States on January 6th 2021, as confirmed by the majority of each house of Congress (232 to 197 in the House and 57 to 43 in the Senate), and that he has not been cleared by 2/3rds of each house to run again, was Donald Trump was in fact not eligible to run for office in 2024 per Section 3 of Article XIV of the US Constitution?
XXVII. In fact, in Trump v. Anderson, the Supreme Court did not dispute that Trump engaged in an insurrection, only that states could not enforce Article IV, Section 3 against federal officeholders or candidates, but that only Congress “enjoys power to enforce the Amendment through legislation pursuant to Section 5”. Accordingly, is it not imperative both chambers of Congress see to it that Donald Trump is promptly cleared as President by a resolution backed by 2/3rds majority in each chamber (or that legislation is passed by these margins in each chamber followed by an additional ratification by three-fourths of the states which would be the higher threshold required to amend the Constitution and remove this hurdle)? Regardless of whether one agrees with Donald Trump’s agenda or actions, and how disgraceful and odious he might be to true followers of the Constitution and of the Word of God, which some of his followers pretend to be on both counts, this would at least make his presidency legal beyond doubt.
In the absence of the above, Donald Trump is little more than an uncouth lawless squatter with multiple bankruptcies, convictions and divorces, a draft-dodging adulterer and failed businessman peddling bibles and cars on the White House lawn and eroding the neighborhood’s property values – and along that America’s confidence in the rule of law, and the world’s faith in America’s word and moral leadership.
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Just one way to look at things: the No Kings protests brought more than 100 times as many people out as Pumpkin Spice Palpatine's birthday parade did.
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Do NOT flatter yourself that anyone, especially me - gives a flying f*ck about where you live, or anything else about you…you feckless, fascist, mendacious tool.
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If you have to say, "I'm not in a cult" you probably are in one. Just saying.

Signs that you might be in a cult.

1. Charismatic leadership. Often with skinny white women as fashion accessories.
2. Worldview shift that brings you under their sacred assumption.
3. A transcedent mission.
4. Self-sacrifice of members.
5. Limits access to outside world.
6. Distinguishable vernacular.
7. Us versus them mentality.
8. Exploits members labor.
9. High entrance and exit costs.
10. "Ends justify the means" mentality.
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So maybe you're not as much an insider as you think you are.
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KMA
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Being an insider MAGA I just thought you'd know what the red and white flags symbolized.
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I have zero idea what you're talking about but I'm starting to get a little concerned about you unhinged lunatics who seem to condone political violence (only for YOUR cause of course!) Are you tracking where i live? Why is the di**head Jim checking with my former teachers?
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So what's with the red and white flags Ken?
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WTF are you talking about? I was at the fire department helping to honor a dear friend and co-worker in a line of duty death after 26 years of good service. You assholes need to focus on yourselves and what hate and discord you are performing to bring about responses like mine.
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