Trump over reacts and overrides Newsom

[dorankj]

So shut the f*** up!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWEpW6KOZDs

[dorankj]

It's only a few of you idiots (more of you concentrated in crappy left wing cities) so we got this covered. You pull this sh** here like in LA or other cities you'll find out what 'We the people' think! FAFO

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And now TX Gov Abbott is deploying national guard ahead of this weekend's No Kings rallies
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/te ... rcna212275

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Nobody is accusing Trump, Hegseth or Miller of being smart or even of being consequential thinkers much less historians.

[mister_coffee]

This is what Trump has been waiting for
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What I don't see is how this ends up any place that is good for him.

I'm just blown away how nobody seems to be able to do the math here.

One way to look at this problem is that you are asking a military that couldn't maintain control in Iraq and Afghanistan to accomplish that mission in a country five times larger.

The other way to look at it is that history and military science shows that to control a pissed-off population you need a ratio of about 1 soldier to 10 civilians. 1 to 20 in exceptional situations. If you make extremely generous assumptions about the US military, reserves, and national guard you end up a ratio of about 1 to 300. In practice that would take three to six months to get to. Three to six months where your cities burn and you can't do much.

A more realistic assessment of force levels and availability would probably put that ratio at about 1 to 1000. Which basically would be putting mosquitoes in a blast furnace.

In practice what that means is that even with an all-out effort by the military you might be able to restore order and maintain control in Washington DC and LA. You might. The rest of the country burns to the ground.

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This is what Trump has been waiting for
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-big-one- ... ction-act/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sDfA6Y5Cyc

[just-jim]

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Pee-Pants FELON donnie has ordered 700 Marines into the mix.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... eles-trump
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And…..

Donald Trump can't name the crime he thinks Gavin Newsom should be arrested for
After Donald Trump told reporters earlier on Monday that he would support the arrest of California’s governor, Gavin Newsom, the president was asked a simple question: “What crime has Governor Newsom committed”?

“What crime has he committed?” Trump replied. “Uh. I think his primarily – primary crime is running for governor, because he’s done such a bad job”
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[mister_coffee]

I think Newsom's statements on LA are spot on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D8qpHaHxRo

[PAL]

So effing right!

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Jim Wright
"If you were deployed on the front line and given the order, would you fire?"
Wrong question. Wrong questions get wrong answers.
What you're really asking is if I, a commissioned officer in the US military, would fire on Americans?
Would I?
I don't know. I can't answer your question without more information. What's the situation? Where am I deployed, where are these "front lines" you speak of? Who gave the order? Why? Am I being ordered to fire on unarmed civilians exercising the rights I am sworn to defend with my life? Or am I being ordered to defend those Americans with my life from brutal men who would do them harm? Most importantly: What DON'T I know in this moment?
See, that's thing. It's NEVER just that simple, shoot, don't shoot, kill, don't kill. Just follow orders.
That's what all that education, training, and experience is for. Years of it. Decades sometimes when you're talking about senior NCOs and General Officers. That's why we train our people the way we do and why it's so damn disastrous when we forget it.
That's the difference between thugs and professional soldiers.
That's the difference between a Marine and a proud boy, a Soldier and brownshirt.
That's the difference between a drunken Fox News host shilling for clicks and likes on social media and a qualified and professional Secretary of Defense who fully understands the gravatas of his office and that his sworn duty is to America and not to a man.
That decision you're asking me to make, THAT'S the difference. Right there.
But more importantly, it's about LEADERSHIP.
And THAT'S difference between a real President, and Donald Trump.
It's about those who put duty, sacrifice, honor, courage, dedication, and full commitment to the nation and its people over all else and are fully willing to lay down their lives in defense of civilization, not for a man, or a king or a president or a political ideology, but for a PEOPLE and the idea of a better future for all.
That's why we swore our oath not to a man, or a flag, or a political party, but to the Constitution.
And that's why I've spent the years since taking off that uniform, telling you over and over and over again just how goddamn important it is for you, CITIZEN, to show the hell up and do YOUR duty to the Republic.
You answer your own question by those you elect to run your nation, good or bad.
You either elect those who believe their office is a sacred trust, a duty, an obligation to the ideals of that better future, that better nation, and who understand the forces they unleash, or you hand your world over to the dull witted thugs and self-serving power-hungry who see military force only as a boot to be placed squarely on the throat of the people when they rise up in defense of liberty.
You ask me if I would fire on Americans.
I might.
But that's the wrong question and wrong questions get wrong answers.
The correct question is this: Would you, CITIZEN, elect by deliberate will or through lazy indifference a leader who would GIVE that order?
You want a better nation? Be a better citizen.

[mister_coffee]

Why do I suspect that this will be a horrible mistake for Trump &c?

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Legally, this is where thing are at this morning with Trump overriding Newsom and calling in 2,000 Nat'l Guard in California.
https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/156-fede ... irect=true