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Re: The great Epstein unravelling

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:36 pm
by Rideback
It doesn't help her series of stories nor pull Trump out of the loop.

Re: The great Epstein unravelling

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 12:21 pm
by mister_coffee
That letter makes it all make even less sense.

Re: The great Epstein unravelling

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:56 am
by Rideback
Pam Bondi's letter of Feb 27 to Kash Patel on the docs
https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1391331/dl?inline=

Re: The great Epstein unravelling

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 11:37 am
by mister_coffee
She needs to avoid windows and tea.

Although seriously if she had an unfortunate accident I can't imagine that very many people would think it was actually an accident.

Re: The great Epstein unravelling

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2025 10:47 am
by Rideback
Glee Violette
"BREAKING - Jeffrey Epstein's partner, Ghislaine Maxwell, wants her conviction overturned.
Trump's Attorney General Pam Bondi says there was NO client list, NO files, so therefore, NO crime. And Ghislaine says, "Cool. So why am I being locked up for 20 years?"
NOT SO FAST, says Bondi - and her Department of Justice is now telling the Trump appointees on the Supreme Court to slap this down. NOW.
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Newsweek reports that In April, Maxwell submitted a plea to the Supreme Court to overturn her conviction. She said she was covered by a non-prosecution agreement made between between JEFFREY EPSTEIN and the U.S. government in 2007 regarding his OTHER co-conspirators.
But the DOJ argued in a new filing that Maxwell was not a party to that agreement. Even though she was convicted for BEING a co-conspirator.
But apparently, to the DOJ, the term "co-conspirator" only applies to the pedophile rapists on the "Client List" - the one that no longer exists - excuse me, NEVER existed.
The filing by Bondi's DOJ reads "This systematic review revealed no incriminating 'client list.' There was also no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties."
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So Maxwell's lawyer, David Oscar Markus, is trying a new tactic.
Some might call it flattery. Some might call it VERY carefully worded extortion.
"I'd be surprised if President Trump knew his lawyers were asking the Supreme Court to let the government break a deal," Markus said, adding: "He's the ultimate dealmaker."
"I'm sure he'd agree that when the United States gives its word, it should keep it," he said. "With all the talk about who's being prosecuted and who isn't, it's especially unfair that Ghislaine Maxwell remains in prison based on a promise the government made and broke."
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Meanwhile, an anonymous source speaking to the Daily Mail says that Maxwell has expressed a willingness to testify before Congress about her experiences.
REALLY? BRING IT ON, says Roger Stone, the man Trump credits as his mentor and teacher (and whom he pardoned for pecadilloes of his own, 7 felony counts of obstruction, witness tampering, and lying to Congress, which spared him from a 40 month prison sentence.)
Stone expressed a threat of his own when he heard this.
"Personally, I like the news that Epstein's pimp Maxwell is ready to testify before Congress. Bill and Hillary [the Clintons] are going to be very embarrassed. She has nothing on Trump."
Hold on Roger. Pam Bondi says the Epstein Files don't even EXIST.
And aren't you LISTENING to your boy Donald? He says the Epstein Files DO exist, but that Hillary WROTE them. Of course, that begs the question, WHY would she put her husband Bill in it, if she WROTE it?
You people really need to get your stories straight.
And NEWS FLASH, Roger. Decent people do not approve of pedophile rapists. No matter WHO they are. They want to see even a PRESIDENT go to jail. It does not matter if he is DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN.
But then, NONE of you have a clue about what a decent person thinks, do you?
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Ghislaine Maxwell and her lawyer are being VERY careful, because after she was sentenced in June of 2020, Trump issued an offhand statement that could be taken as a threat of his own. Several times. Just to make sure she got it.
One of those times was on August 3rd, 2020. While he was still in office, and Bill Barr was still in charge of the prisons.
"In an interview with Axios on HBO that aired Monday, Trump was asked why he wished Maxwell well when she's been arrested on allegations of child sex trafficking. "Well, first of all you don't know that," Trump said to the allegations of child sex trafficking.
"Her friend or boyfriend (Epstein) was either killed or committed suicide. She's now in jail. Yeah, I wish her well. I'd wish you well. I'd wish a lot of people well. Good luck. Let them prove somebody was guilty."
When asked to clarify whether he was suggesting he hoped she doesn't die in jail, Trump told Axios: "Her boyfriend died in jail and people are still trying to figure out, how did it happen? Was it suicide? Was he killed? And I do wish her well. I'm not looking for anything bad for her."
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There were questions about Epstein's suicide in Rikers Prison, sometime overnight between August 9-10, 2019.
His cellmate, a cop-informant, was removed earlier that day. Only two guards were on duty, who both "fell asleep". The two cameras both "malfunctioned". And reporters who wanted to interview the warden the next day were told he had been "transferred".
But of course, NOW we KNOW that it WAS suicide. Attorney General Pam Bondi said so, officially. She did change one aspect of the story, though. Turns out, the two cameras did not "malfunction". There was only ONE, and it was just "recalibrating" for the minute before midnight. She said, without offering proof, that ALL the cameras do this EVERY night. And that just "happened" to be the minute Epstein chose to kill himself.
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Really? It happened THAT early?
CNN reported on Tuesday, November 19, 2019 that the two guards, Tova Noel and Michael Thomas, repeatedly failed to check on Epstein as required and then filed false forms saying they had. The guards pleaded not guilty to charges of conspiracy and filing false documents in Manhattan federal court and were released on bail packages that include a $100,000 bond for each defendant.
(Where did they get that kind of money?)
Detailed records show that both guards claimed to make all the cell checks overnight, but did not. They never moved from their desks.
Epstein's death was not discovered until the breakfast carts were brought around at 6:30 a.m., and he was found "alone in his cell and not responsive, with a noose around his neck."
Where he got the "noose" and what it consisted of was never explained. Bill Barr's prison officials had very conveniently already supposedly put Epstein on a "suicide watch" - just in case something "happened" - and would have presumably removed his shoelaces and his belt. So, what DID he hang himself with?
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BOTTOM LINE. Ghislaine is being very careful not to directly threaten Trump. It could be very bad for her health. Her lawyer is carfully trying to frame his threat as flattery, as well. The fact remains, though, that SHE is the only person on earth who could bring down Trump and all his rich and powerful ... friends.
They deny it ever happened, and the dozens of brave underage exploited teenage girls who came forward have been ignored by every state and federal Department of Justice and Court.
There is only Ghislaine Maxwell, now. And nobody wishes her well."
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Re: The great Epstein unravelling

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:28 pm
by pasayten
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Re: The great Epstein unravelling

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2025 7:43 pm
by just-jim
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A term that has fallen out of use…..seems apropos, now: ‘Hoist on his own petard’.
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Re: The great Epstein unravelling

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:30 pm
by Rideback
Fox shows all day have been talking Epstein and just now a host said they simply didn't believe the WH explanation.

Re: The great Epstein unravelling

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:14 pm
by mister_coffee
Word is that the White House is calling MAGA influencers and telling them to stop talking about Epstein. With an implied threat that they will be cut out of any access in the future if they don't.

Occam's Razor is very sharp. And in this case what is really going on is just too damned obvious.

The great Epstein unravelling

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:51 am
by Rideback
Even Fox on their Sunday am show is calling on Trump to explain after his Saturday rant raised more questions for the MAGAs.
https://marygeddry.substack.com/p/the-g ... irect=true

"Donald Trump’s latest Truth Social post reads less like a coherent statement and more like a fever dream dictated into a gold-plated phone at 3 a.m. while rage-scrolling through Telegram. What was meant to be a presidential defense turned into a multi-paragraph nervous breakdown in real time, a desperate attempt to gaslight not just his enemies, but his own base, who are now starting to smell the rot from inside the gaudy gold appointed Oval Office.

The post begins with Trump doing what he does best: accusing others of the very thing he’s being accused of. The Epstein files? Fake news. Invented by Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, James Comey, and why not Joe Biden. According to Trump, these mythical files were just another hoax conjured up by the deep state, the same cabal responsible for the Steele dossier, the Russia probe, and Hunter Biden’s laptop. He tells his followers to stop being so naive, to stop giving attention to “a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein.” Never mind that Trump himself once promised multiple phases of Epstein file releases and platformed influencers who swore those documents were sitting on Pam Bondi’s desk. That was so last administration.


He then pleads for MAGA unity, “We’re on one team, MAGA!”, while passive-aggressively chastising his followers for attacking Bondi, the same Bondi who has changed her story more often than Trump changes legal counsel. In a tone more fitting of a disappointed father than a confident leader, Trump laments that people are being “selfish” and hurting his “perfect administration”, yes, perfect, if you grade on a curve that includes fire, plague, and unpaid lawyers.

Then comes the part where he says the Epstein files aren’t real but, if they are, the Democrats created them to trick MAGA. Also, they would have released them already if they really had dirt on him. (Which, logically, they wouldn’t do if they created them… but don’t try to follow logic here. That way lies madness.) Instead of addressing whether he was lying then or now, Trump spirals into a greatest-hits medley of MAGA grievances: JFK files, MLK files, the border, Iran, energy dominance, voter fraud, 2020, 2024, it’s like watching a man drown in his own talking points.

And just as his audience starts to wobble, Trump leans in harder. He accuses his base of wasting time and energy on Epstein. “Nobody cares about him,” he declares, as though he hadn’t once winked at QAnon’s entire purpose in life. It’s the political equivalent of your favorite televangelist telling you God was a scam all along and asking you to keep sending money, anyway.

He closes the rant by insisting America is now “the hottest country anywhere in the world,” which, in a week of global heatwaves, may be the only accurate thing in the post. But even here, his message is jumbled. We’re winning, we’re under attack, we’re thriving, stop asking questions. Let Pam do her job. The Epstein list is a hoax. Also, shame on you for wanting it.

It was a mess. A magnificent, sweaty, paranoid mess. And worst of all for Trump MAGA noticed.

They flooded his replies with confusion, anger, betrayal. “This is going to cost you so many supporters.” “You made a promise.” “You’re very wrong on this one.” Even Laura Loomer, usually a MAGA cheerleader in all caps, was reduced to veiled warnings about lost Senate seats and DOJ incompetence.

Trump lit the Epstein match, sold the torches, and handed out the pitchforks. Now that the mob has turned on him, he’s yelling at them to put it all back in the box.

But they’re not listening because you can’t unring the conspiracy bell. When even Nick Fuentes is laughing at your meltdown, it’s safe to say the grift is circling the drain.

The only thing more absurd than the post itself is the fact that Trump appears to think this will make the problem go away. It won’t. He didn’t just step on a rake he built the entire rake factory and face-planted on the assembly line.

And MAGA? MAGA is finally beginning to wonder if maybe, just maybe, the emperor’s robe is made entirely of Epstein files."