FBI Raid on Mar-A-Lago
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DoJ filed an appeal today with the Appeals Court of Judge Cannon's appointment of a Special Master
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/14/politics ... index.html
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Wow….guilty little donnie is having a really really shitty day!
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I actually think think this will come about:
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I actually think think this will come about:
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Eye witness account, relayed to the FBI that Trump ordered the classified docs moved after he got the subpoena. The testimony is backed up by the security camera footage obtained from MAL.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/12/politics ... index.html
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Add to Trump's attempt to leverage the withheld docs for a trade with the NARA the acknowledgement by John Solomon, who was fired as a reporter for his opinionated/factless pieces, that Trump gave him access to the classified docs which he promptly read. The man couldn't even get the approval to be a reporter much less be vetted for Top Secret clearances and yet Trump handed over the national secrets to him. It's now apparent that the question is not just if but how many people he shared the secrets with and what did those people do with them.
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Increasingly, it looks like tRump has been trying to extort the government - by offering ‘his’ documents in exchange for the ones the Archives hold concerning the 2016 Russian influence peddling.
https://www.msnbc.com/american-voices/w ... 0229574002
Extortion, Obstruction….when is it enough?
Clinton’s NSA chief, Berger, took 5 pages of top secret stuff, got fined $50k, did 2 years probation and lost his law license.
El Cheato has 200,000 pages and is out golfing and holding Klan rallies!
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https://www.msnbc.com/american-voices/w ... 0229574002
Extortion, Obstruction….when is it enough?
Clinton’s NSA chief, Berger, took 5 pages of top secret stuff, got fined $50k, did 2 years probation and lost his law license.
El Cheato has 200,000 pages and is out golfing and holding Klan rallies!
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Judge Cannon has been doing backflips to protect Trump and every time a doc gets unsealed it's more apparent she is really gaming the case.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/10/04/a ... -help-him/
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LOCK HIM UP!! LOCK HIM UP!! LOCK HIM UP!! LOCK HIM UP!!!!!!!Rideback wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:25 pm NARA will likely refer this over to DoJ as well. Too many of Trump's advisors used their own cell phones to do govt business as well as using Whatsap to communicate. All the records must comply with the Presidential Records Act and be turned over to the Nat'l Archives.
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NARA will likely refer this over to DoJ as well. Too many of Trump's advisors used their own cell phones to do govt business as well as using Whatsap to communicate. All the records must comply with the Presidential Records Act and be turned over to the Nat'l Archives.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/03/politics ... 4834280803
The NARA determined there were 24 boxes that had not been returned. Trump returned 15.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/10/03/n ... e-them-15/
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/03/politics ... 4834280803
The NARA determined there were 24 boxes that had not been returned. Trump returned 15.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/10/03/n ... e-them-15/
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Apparently the vendors contacted to digitize the stolen classified docs retrieved from Mar a Lago have all refused to enter into a contract with Trump, who, as the Plaintiff in the special master litigation is responsible for paying them. Trump's reputation for not paying his bills seems to have come back to bite him.
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This is what the other end of something like this looks like:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/p ... tured.html
https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... world-nyt/
There is no way of knowing, with the information we have, if this is Mr. Trump's doing. However, when they start looking at what exactly what classified eyes-only burn-before-reading informants were mentioned in those top secret SCI documents, they might be able to match some of them up and start connecting dots.
Note this was observed almost a year ago and for all we know has been ongoing since then.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/us/p ... tured.html
https://thehill.com/policy/national-sec ... world-nyt/
There is no way of knowing, with the information we have, if this is Mr. Trump's doing. However, when they start looking at what exactly what classified eyes-only burn-before-reading informants were mentioned in those top secret SCI documents, they might be able to match some of them up and start connecting dots.
Note this was observed almost a year ago and for all we know has been ongoing since then.
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For those who want to know the task facing the FBI & IC going forward and why this is more than an argument over storage of documents, this is a good recounting
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/09/23/t ... ce-review/
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/09/23/t ... ce-review/
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Interesting video. What started out as ‘the documents were packed by GSA and sent to mal a lardo by mistake (or planted by the FBI)’….has now become ‘I declassified the documents and took them to MAL’Rideback wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:38 am https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/202 ... ot-vpx.cnn
Somewhere there is a DoJ team member who is archiving each of Trump's interviews and social media in order to play in front of the grand jury. But this one will surely take front row center.
This illustrates, well, why tubby only has C- lawyers representing him. Defense attorneys don’t like clients who can’t or won’t keep their yaps shut, and we all know how el-cheeto-o loves to babble on and on. Good attorneys know they are wasting their time and that he is a lost cause.
He keeps digging the hole deeper and deeper…..
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https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/202 ... ot-vpx.cnn
Somewhere there is a DoJ team member who is archiving each of Trump's interviews and social media in order to play in front of the grand jury. But this one will surely take front row center.
Somewhere there is a DoJ team member who is archiving each of Trump's interviews and social media in order to play in front of the grand jury. But this one will surely take front row center.
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11th circuit appeals in 29 page opinion lifts the stay that Judge Cannon imposed and says outright that her ruling abused the bench.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/21/politics ... index.html
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Special Master to Team Trump, 'put up or shut up'
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/09/judg ... ified-docs
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Judge responds to DoJ request for a carve out and appoints a special master.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/09/15/j ... let-paper/
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Speaking of lawyers, Trump's 'custodian of records' attorney has now lawyered up. No doubt she is in grave legal jeopardy for her role.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/09/11/1 ... f-records/
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This woman explains a lot - why no good lawyer will represent cheeto….
https://twitter.com/kenolin1/status/1568390158336270337
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DoJ is making a dual appeal of the Judge's ruling.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/08/politics ... index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/08/politics ... index.html
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Even if (and it is a huge if) we manage to get rid of Trump with all of this, I'd argue that the harm to our national security is so bad that it arguably wasn't worth it. Maybe,
My own guess is that the decision to indict or not indict has already been made, and that might well explain both the motivation and content for Biden's speech at Independence Hall last week. And ironically the "special master" decision might move up the timetable. If DOJ judges that they have enough evidence to indict now, it might make more sense to indict and arrest Trump immediately rather than wait for the "special master" to sort through things. You can make a lot of arguments about holding him for both his own safety and as a material witness and to also sort out where all of the classified documents might have gone (and the judge explicitly left open that the damage control assessment could continue).
Such actions would kick off a firestorm and probably a lot of terrorist attacks, mostly aimed at federal law enforcement and the judiciary. Which would be a tactical, strategic, and (more importantly) political blunder for the MAGA crowd: they would get chewed up badly, they would be forced to expose most of their support network, and they would alienate the vast majority of the public.
At this point, if I was Donald Trump or part of his inner circle, I'd be much more worried about being assassinated than I would about federal law enforcement. He was obviously acting as a conduit and source for intelligence information for someone, and just as obviously his career as a spy is at an end. At this point his handlers probably are more worried about him exposing where all of that information got to than anything else, and he is notoriously bad at keeping his mouth shut. So it would make sense to get rid of him. Permanently. Also, if whomever was buying the information was interested in making trouble in the United States, Donald Trump's accidental and mysterious death would certainly make one heck of a lot of trouble.
My own guess is that the decision to indict or not indict has already been made, and that might well explain both the motivation and content for Biden's speech at Independence Hall last week. And ironically the "special master" decision might move up the timetable. If DOJ judges that they have enough evidence to indict now, it might make more sense to indict and arrest Trump immediately rather than wait for the "special master" to sort through things. You can make a lot of arguments about holding him for both his own safety and as a material witness and to also sort out where all of the classified documents might have gone (and the judge explicitly left open that the damage control assessment could continue).
Such actions would kick off a firestorm and probably a lot of terrorist attacks, mostly aimed at federal law enforcement and the judiciary. Which would be a tactical, strategic, and (more importantly) political blunder for the MAGA crowd: they would get chewed up badly, they would be forced to expose most of their support network, and they would alienate the vast majority of the public.
At this point, if I was Donald Trump or part of his inner circle, I'd be much more worried about being assassinated than I would about federal law enforcement. He was obviously acting as a conduit and source for intelligence information for someone, and just as obviously his career as a spy is at an end. At this point his handlers probably are more worried about him exposing where all of that information got to than anything else, and he is notoriously bad at keeping his mouth shut. So it would make sense to get rid of him. Permanently. Also, if whomever was buying the information was interested in making trouble in the United States, Donald Trump's accidental and mysterious death would certainly make one heck of a lot of trouble.
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Read the book, "They Want to Kill Americans: The Militias, Terrorists, and Deranged Ideology fo the Trump Insurgency" by Malcom Nance, if you really want to know what kind of danger our country is in. He lays it all out and lists and talks about the groups such as Oath Keepers and others. It's factual and scary. LIbrary has it.
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The true danger to this country lies in promotion of the Bannon-style tribalism where he just 'throws sh** at the walls until something sticks' in order to bring chaos so that when a truly dangerous situation arrives the 1st, 2nd & 3rd reaction is denial. Denial in this case of the harm to national security of not just our nation but of our allies goes beyond any tribal worshiping, get over it.
Even Bill Barr has admonished Fox listeners to accept the reality that Trump had no business with these docs, they belonged to the NARA where they would be secured properly and Trump's theft is only compounded by the disregard for security he maintained them under. This is not a tribal or partisan issue, it's not the equivalent of an overdue set of library books like Trump's new lawyer claimed in court. And then came the claim that this was only a 'storage issue'. Well, that's like a bank robber claiming that the money he had in his possession is really just a storage issue, not a theft.
This country is in danger, perhaps the kind of danger that can't be repaired and that danger is more important than party vs party. It's reality.
Even Bill Barr has admonished Fox listeners to accept the reality that Trump had no business with these docs, they belonged to the NARA where they would be secured properly and Trump's theft is only compounded by the disregard for security he maintained them under. This is not a tribal or partisan issue, it's not the equivalent of an overdue set of library books like Trump's new lawyer claimed in court. And then came the claim that this was only a 'storage issue'. Well, that's like a bank robber claiming that the money he had in his possession is really just a storage issue, not a theft.
This country is in danger, perhaps the kind of danger that can't be repaired and that danger is more important than party vs party. It's reality.
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