FBI Raid on Mar-A-Lago
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Apparently you didn't watch or read HRC's concession speech the day after the election in 2016 or Trump's tweets about her calling him to congratuate him. And of the classified docs found on her server, there were 4 and they were marked 'Confidential', which is the lowest form of classification. For instance, among those 'Confidential' emails was a wedding announcement for a foreign dignatary's daughter.
With that out of the way, you must recognize that your continued effort to protect the actions of Trump where he knowingly stole govt protected and govt owned documents is in and of itself a choice you're making to protect an individual over the Constitution, the laws he has broken that endanger your own countrymen, the international alliances that we rely on and other countries worldwide trust we will abide by? This is absolutely not a partisan issue. This is an ex president who, with the help of his enablers, has broken the most sacred vows he took to hold office. There is zero reason to stand up for this man, zero.
With that out of the way, you must recognize that your continued effort to protect the actions of Trump where he knowingly stole govt protected and govt owned documents is in and of itself a choice you're making to protect an individual over the Constitution, the laws he has broken that endanger your own countrymen, the international alliances that we rely on and other countries worldwide trust we will abide by? This is absolutely not a partisan issue. This is an ex president who, with the help of his enablers, has broken the most sacred vows he took to hold office. There is zero reason to stand up for this man, zero.
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But Killary’s bathroom server and 30,000 emails qualifies her as the best presidential candidate ever? (Not to mention her denial of the ‘16 election) The only nightmare is how utterly, hopelessly your hypocrisy and partisanship is!
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Top Secret = grave danger to national security if released. And there were 25 of those found. This is a nightmare.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/202 ... bi-vpx.cnn
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Trump's problems just got a whole lot worse. 184 classified docs, 25 top secret
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... -rcna44959
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This is hilarious and sad at the same time...
Donald J. Trump
8hr
The Justice Department and FBI are “leaking” at levels never seen before - and I did nothing wrong!!!
PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT!
The Radical Left Democrat prosecutors are illegally trying to circumvent, for purely political gain, the Presidential Record’s Act, under which I have done absolutely nothing wrong. It can not be circumvented, for me or any other President. They illegally Raided my home, and took things that should not have been taken. They even broke into my safe, an unthinkable act!
Joe Biden said he knew nothing about the Break-In of Mar-a-Lago or, the greatest political attack in the history of the U.S. Does anybody really believe this???
Even though I am as innocent as a person can be, and despite MY campaign being spied on by the Radical Left, the FISA COURT being lied to and defrauded, all of the many Hoaxes and Scams that were illegally placed on me by very sick & demented people, and without even mentioning the many crimes of Joe and Hunter Biden, all revealed in great detail in the Laptop From Hell, it looks more and more like the Fake News Media is pushing hard for the Sleaze to do something that should not be done!
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the Judge has agreed to DoJ's redactions and will allow the redacted affadavit to go public as soon as Friday.
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This is probably not a time for satire.
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Heather Cox RIchardson: the letter posted by Trump's guy John Solomon from the NARA, Gretchen Witmer's would be kidnappers found guilty & another Rep found guilty
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.c ... urce=email
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Yes, docs were from NSA, CIA & FBI. And there were too many people who had access to the docs who were not even close to being vetted for security which adds to the worry/reality that copies could be strewn round the world. And then, of course, it won't be known for sometime if and how many docs are still missing. Trump may not be the only one that saw the $ value.
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Yes, utterly insane.
It is unlikely that his collection of over 300 classified documents was completely composed of documents classified for silly bureaucratic reasons. At least some of those, including the Top Secret/SCI documents, probably had serious national defense information whose compromise would cause serious harm to our country and the safety and well-being of its citizens.
Let's not forget that the obvious real reason he had those documents was to sell them to enemies of America.
It is unlikely that his collection of over 300 classified documents was completely composed of documents classified for silly bureaucratic reasons. At least some of those, including the Top Secret/SCI documents, probably had serious national defense information whose compromise would cause serious harm to our country and the safety and well-being of its citizens.
Let's not forget that the obvious real reason he had those documents was to sell them to enemies of America.
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NYT now reporting that so far 300 classified docs, including ones of the highest Top Secret classifications were stolen by Trump. In the words of Jim Wright, a retired Signals Intel agent:
'Trump took 300+ classified documents. And not just classified documents, but material classified as Special Access.
That's not stuff he can declassify.
This is unbelievably bad.
It's so bad, I can't tell you how bad it is or exactly WHAT it is without risk of violating my own oath.
It's so bad, that we may not be able to access the damage without making it infinitely worse. We have to assume these programs are compromised and act accordingly, no matter the cost. And it's going to cost BILLIONS.
It's so bad, that if you were a security officer trying to game out theoretical worst case scenarios, the idea that any president would do something like this would be so insane that you likely wouldn't even consider the possibility (of course, they will have to from now on, holy crap).
If you were writing a spy thriller and you submitted this as a story idea to your publisher, she'd likely have you dragged from her office by security and dumped in the alley behind the building.
This is utterly insane. It's beyond insane.'
'Trump took 300+ classified documents. And not just classified documents, but material classified as Special Access.
That's not stuff he can declassify.
This is unbelievably bad.
It's so bad, I can't tell you how bad it is or exactly WHAT it is without risk of violating my own oath.
It's so bad, that we may not be able to access the damage without making it infinitely worse. We have to assume these programs are compromised and act accordingly, no matter the cost. And it's going to cost BILLIONS.
It's so bad, that if you were a security officer trying to game out theoretical worst case scenarios, the idea that any president would do something like this would be so insane that you likely wouldn't even consider the possibility (of course, they will have to from now on, holy crap).
If you were writing a spy thriller and you submitted this as a story idea to your publisher, she'd likely have you dragged from her office by security and dumped in the alley behind the building.
This is utterly insane. It's beyond insane.'
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The work of sorting through the documents is more than intense as the filter teams who must determine which documents are privileged and so will be withheld from the investigation to the other agencies which must review the classified docs to see what classifications they held when Trump left office and then what classification they hold today.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/21/n ... stigation/
https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/08/21/n ... stigation/
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A kindergarten teacher explains things to guilty little donnie…..hilarious!
https://twitter.com/StaceyCKs1/status/1 ... 4900438017
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Good piece from DK. Since he wrote that the DoJ has filed their argument of why the underlying affadavit should not be unsealed. In their argument is included a statement that this would be detrimental to ongoing investigations and they use a particular note that refers to a grand jury.
Indeed Trump is trying to make a whole lot of noise around this but as a former prosecutor pointed out, pay attention to the Trump team filings in court. They can make all the noise they want out in the wild, but it's the court filings that matter. In that respect there have been none.
By the hour the walls are closing in around Trump.
Indeed Trump is trying to make a whole lot of noise around this but as a former prosecutor pointed out, pay attention to the Trump team filings in court. They can make all the noise they want out in the wild, but it's the court filings that matter. In that respect there have been none.
By the hour the walls are closing in around Trump.
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Lengthy but spot on! The writer - someone with extensive experience with classified documents - easily dismisses all the weak defense of the orange ones actions.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/8 ... thological
And posits that there are deeper problems. Who knew? The cheeto-in-chief might be psycho….?
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/8 ... thological
And posits that there are deeper problems. Who knew? The cheeto-in-chief might be psycho….?
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Well there is the ongoing House investigation of Jared's $2 billion deal. There's also the big question to determine who it was that enabled Trump to get these docs; Radcliffe? Jared? And of course the question of whether and how many times they were copied and/or disceminated among people without clearance and did various foreign entities get access? With Trump & Company there's always more.
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I can't shake the feeling that there aren't more shoes to drop on this topic. Probably that shoe will be a big stinky boot.
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House requests a damage assessment from DNI on the docs retrieved from Mar a Lago
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/1 ... g-00051577
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Trumspters have gotten kind of quiet around here lately...
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NYT reporting that yes there was a witness to the classified docs that had not been turned over to the DoJ the first round. Not too many people would have that kind of access, or to be ballsy enough to check it out before they picked up the phone to tell the FBI. Apparently, whoever this person is, their credibility panned out and the DoJ now has the receipts.
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