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Buffalo Springfield had it about right over 50 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjSpO2B6G4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjSpO2B6G4s
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Well, in theory at least the Dems in the Senate have an opportunity to make the Rs squirm in the next few weeks.
DHS is likely to run out of money sometime in July because they overspent their budget, violating the law.
Supplemental budget requests are subject to filibuster in the Senate.
DHS is likely to run out of money sometime in July because they overspent their budget, violating the law.
Supplemental budget requests are subject to filibuster in the Senate.


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Ah, #47 changed his mind because he wants people to like him again. Stephen Miller will devise some other plan. Anything to destabilze the masses.
Dems can't do much when both houses are owned by Reps.
Dems can't do much when both houses are owned by Reps.
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"AND JUST LIKE THAT, TACO TRUMP STRIKES AGAIN. #TACO
#TrumpAlwaysChickensOut 
#TerrificBreakingNews
"FIVE MINUTES BEFORE MIDNIGHT EAST COAST TIME, TRUMP DIRECTED ICE TO ABRUPTLY HALT ALL IMMIGRANT RAIDS AT farms, restaurants, hotels, and the like. Trump also directed ICE TO STOP so-called 'COLLATERAL ARESTS' where ICE randomly detains and arrests non-criminal immigrants.
Last month, Trump dropped his tariffs. Weeks ago, Trump folded to Canada. This week he folded to China. And now Trump is folding on a KEY PLANK OF HIS DEPORTATION AGENDA just a day after calling in the Marines to Los Angeles.
The midnight directive to ICE marks an abrupt pivot in Trump's immigration agenda and sidelines immigration hardliners like resident Nazi Stephen Miller in favor of MAGA's corporate and billionaire donors.
TRUMP'S RICH FRIENDS TOLD HIM THE REALITY which is immigrants contribute more than anyone knows to this nation. They grow all our food, prepare all of our food, distribute our food, and in many cases as caretakers and child care workers they spoon feed food.
IMMIGRANTS PAY A HIGHER TAX RATE THAN BILLIONAIRES and they are the single greatest factor behind economic growth. In short, Trump's rich friends put the scare on him.
GAVIN NEWSOM ALSO PUT THE SCARE ON HIM. Trump thought he'd bowl over Newsom and take control of California's National Guard without a fight, but California's Governor called him a cheesy, washed up, mentally unstable dictator in front of the entire national audience. He challenged Trump legally, morally, clearly and unequivocally.
CALIFORNIA SENATOR ALEX PADILLA attracted global media attention after he was tackled and arrested by Homeland Security goons.
PROTESTORS ACROSS THE COUNTRY PUT THE SCARE ON HIM. Immigrant communities across the country are on the frontlines of resistance against the terror inflicted by the administration and they're fighting back more furiously and effectively than ever before.
They are stopping ICE cars and busses, intervening in raids, de-arresting their friends and families, and generally making life hell on earth for the masked predators hanging out at schools and churches looking for children and moms to snatch up and whisk away in unmarked vans.
Trump paid a massive political price for trying to criminalize regular working people. The more voters see what his immigration agenda is really about, the more they hate it.
TRUMP'S POLLING NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN FASTER than Kristi Noem at a MAGA keg party. He's nearly 20 points underwater on inflation, he's 13 points underwater on the economy, and on immigration—which was his one bright spot—he's now also underwater as of this week.
LET IT BE KNOWN FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY that on the eve of the largest nationwide revolt against America's wannabe king, the silver spoon punk arse bi**h chicken taco'd out and threw in the white flag BEFORE A SINGLE PROTESTER HIT THE STREET." ~ Feminist News
#TerrificBreakingNews
Last month, Trump dropped his tariffs. Weeks ago, Trump folded to Canada. This week he folded to China. And now Trump is folding on a KEY PLANK OF HIS DEPORTATION AGENDA just a day after calling in the Marines to Los Angeles.
The midnight directive to ICE marks an abrupt pivot in Trump's immigration agenda and sidelines immigration hardliners like resident Nazi Stephen Miller in favor of MAGA's corporate and billionaire donors.
TRUMP'S RICH FRIENDS TOLD HIM THE REALITY which is immigrants contribute more than anyone knows to this nation. They grow all our food, prepare all of our food, distribute our food, and in many cases as caretakers and child care workers they spoon feed food.
IMMIGRANTS PAY A HIGHER TAX RATE THAN BILLIONAIRES and they are the single greatest factor behind economic growth. In short, Trump's rich friends put the scare on him.
GAVIN NEWSOM ALSO PUT THE SCARE ON HIM. Trump thought he'd bowl over Newsom and take control of California's National Guard without a fight, but California's Governor called him a cheesy, washed up, mentally unstable dictator in front of the entire national audience. He challenged Trump legally, morally, clearly and unequivocally.
CALIFORNIA SENATOR ALEX PADILLA attracted global media attention after he was tackled and arrested by Homeland Security goons.
PROTESTORS ACROSS THE COUNTRY PUT THE SCARE ON HIM. Immigrant communities across the country are on the frontlines of resistance against the terror inflicted by the administration and they're fighting back more furiously and effectively than ever before.
They are stopping ICE cars and busses, intervening in raids, de-arresting their friends and families, and generally making life hell on earth for the masked predators hanging out at schools and churches looking for children and moms to snatch up and whisk away in unmarked vans.
Trump paid a massive political price for trying to criminalize regular working people. The more voters see what his immigration agenda is really about, the more they hate it.
TRUMP'S POLLING NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN FASTER than Kristi Noem at a MAGA keg party. He's nearly 20 points underwater on inflation, he's 13 points underwater on the economy, and on immigration—which was his one bright spot—he's now also underwater as of this week.
LET IT BE KNOWN FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY that on the eve of the largest nationwide revolt against America's wannabe king, the silver spoon punk arse bi**h chicken taco'd out and threw in the white flag BEFORE A SINGLE PROTESTER HIT THE STREET." ~ Feminist News
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What's going to really fry your arse, I think Trump (now that we see the border secured, and people who should be deported are (Like Obummer BTW 5+million)) may get passed a workable legislation including work permits. I may be wrong but it's just his style to actually get done what your side never accomplishes but only uses to beat republicans over the head with when you're not in power (which i think is going to stay awhile!)
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From a Farmer to Our Community:
I am a farmer in Ventura County. I love this country and I care deeply about this community, and I keep asking myself—what is the endgame here?
Many people may not realize that agriculture in California—and across the country—relies on a workforce that includes thousands of undocumented workers. These are the people who harvest our food, care for our crops, and keep local farming alive. They are essential to our farms and our food supply. They’ve been showing up every day for years, even through fires, drought, and a pandemic. And yet, despite their contributions, they are now being targeted in ways that are cruel, unjust, and deeply un-American.
As you may or may not know, growers, commodity groups, and agricultural organizations have spent decades advocating for legislative solutions that recognize the reality of our workforce. Yet despite honest, sustained efforts, our government has failed to provide a workable pathway. Meanwhile, it remains an open secret that many individuals working in our orchards, fields, and packinghouses do so without formal immigration status. Yet they continue to show up—day in and day out—because they are essential, not just to agriculture, but to the food systems that nourish this country.
The U.S. government imposes extensive labor, food safety, and regulatory requirements on American farmers—yet allows food imports from other countries without requiring the same standards. This creates a deeply unfair system. Many of us, who take pride in our country and believe in the rule of law, are left feeling conflicted and disillusioned. The uncomfortable truth is that, in order to remain financially viable, we are often forced to operate within a framework that turns a blind eye to the very realities our lawmakers refuse to address. Every single American benefits from the labor of undocumented workers, and then, to see the very workers who make this all possible being hunted down and criminalized is not only hypocritical—it is un-American.
While I originally supported efforts to remove individuals with serious criminal histories from our communities, it has become painfully clear that the scope of recent ICE activity extends far beyond that. The presence of ICE and Border Patrol at farms, packing facilities, and roadside checkpoints—often without warrants—appears to be less about public safety and more about intimidation. These actions are racially motivated and have created an atmosphere of fear and distrust.
As an educated white person, I am not concerned about being stopped by ICE. But as an employer, I now feel compelled to advise my staff—hardworking people I trust and depend on—to avoid certain roads, to stay out of sight, and to park their vehicles well behind the property line. That I must have these conversations at all speaks volumes about the systemic racial targeting we are witnessing.
The deployment of the National Guard and Marines, the use of masks by ICE agents to hide their identities, and the sheer scale of enforcement activity are disgraceful and deeply disturbing. These tactics don’t reflect the values of a just or democratic society. They’re meant to intimidate, to silence, and to divide.
And it is deeply disturbing that this campaign of fear is being waged against the same people who, just a few years ago, were deemed essential. Now, they’re being treated as expendable. This is not just a farmworker issue. It’s a human rights issue. It’s a civil liberties issue. And it’s an existential threat to our farming community and the values we claim to hold.
Moreover, the Latino community is not separate from our identity—it is part of it. The cultural legacy of Mexican Americans is embedded in every aspect of life in Ventura County: from our neighborhoods and ranches to our schools, institutions, and local landmarks. You see it in the names of our towns, the streets we walk, and even in the legal descriptions of our properties, still tied to the original Spanish Land Grants. Mexican culture is American culture. To diminish, intimidate, or target this community is not just unjust—it’s an attack on the very fabric of who we are.
Ventura County’s agricultural workforce is vital—not just to our farms, but to the food systems that nourish the nation. These workers are not statistics. They are families, neighbors, and indispensable members of our communities. When they are afraid, our farms falter, supply chains suffer, and trust in public institutions breaks down.
Let’s be clear: even if the ICE raids on farms were to stop tomorrow, targeting people at shopping centers, grocery stores, restaurants, and along public roads is just as damaging—if not worse. These aren’t criminals—they're mothers buying diapers, grandfathers picking up medication, and essential workers grabbing dinner after a long shift. No one should live in fear of simply showing up to work or caring for their family. When fear drives people indoors, it doesn’t just slow the economy—it breaks the social contract that holds communities together.
This isn’t public safety. This is the systematic hunting and trapping of human beings. And it is wrong.
What is the endgame here?
• Because what I see is chaos with no upside:
• Raids at farms mean fewer hands to harvest crops.
• Fewer crops mean food rotting in the fields.
• That means higher prices at the grocery store and more imported food from countries with weaker labor and safety standards.
• That means our local farm economy—a cornerstone of Ventura County—takes a devastating hit.
And all for what? To terrorize the very people we just called "essential"?
Let’s be honest: this doesn’t make us safer. It makes us smaller. Less just. Less humane. And it pushes us further from the values we claim to stand for.
So again I ask: What is the goal?
Because if it’s to collapse our food system, weaken our economy, and strip human beings of dignity—then we are already dangerously close.
Thank you for listening. Let’s make sure our values show up in our actions.
Sincerely,
A Ventura County Farmer
I am a farmer in Ventura County. I love this country and I care deeply about this community, and I keep asking myself—what is the endgame here?
Many people may not realize that agriculture in California—and across the country—relies on a workforce that includes thousands of undocumented workers. These are the people who harvest our food, care for our crops, and keep local farming alive. They are essential to our farms and our food supply. They’ve been showing up every day for years, even through fires, drought, and a pandemic. And yet, despite their contributions, they are now being targeted in ways that are cruel, unjust, and deeply un-American.
As you may or may not know, growers, commodity groups, and agricultural organizations have spent decades advocating for legislative solutions that recognize the reality of our workforce. Yet despite honest, sustained efforts, our government has failed to provide a workable pathway. Meanwhile, it remains an open secret that many individuals working in our orchards, fields, and packinghouses do so without formal immigration status. Yet they continue to show up—day in and day out—because they are essential, not just to agriculture, but to the food systems that nourish this country.
The U.S. government imposes extensive labor, food safety, and regulatory requirements on American farmers—yet allows food imports from other countries without requiring the same standards. This creates a deeply unfair system. Many of us, who take pride in our country and believe in the rule of law, are left feeling conflicted and disillusioned. The uncomfortable truth is that, in order to remain financially viable, we are often forced to operate within a framework that turns a blind eye to the very realities our lawmakers refuse to address. Every single American benefits from the labor of undocumented workers, and then, to see the very workers who make this all possible being hunted down and criminalized is not only hypocritical—it is un-American.
While I originally supported efforts to remove individuals with serious criminal histories from our communities, it has become painfully clear that the scope of recent ICE activity extends far beyond that. The presence of ICE and Border Patrol at farms, packing facilities, and roadside checkpoints—often without warrants—appears to be less about public safety and more about intimidation. These actions are racially motivated and have created an atmosphere of fear and distrust.
As an educated white person, I am not concerned about being stopped by ICE. But as an employer, I now feel compelled to advise my staff—hardworking people I trust and depend on—to avoid certain roads, to stay out of sight, and to park their vehicles well behind the property line. That I must have these conversations at all speaks volumes about the systemic racial targeting we are witnessing.
The deployment of the National Guard and Marines, the use of masks by ICE agents to hide their identities, and the sheer scale of enforcement activity are disgraceful and deeply disturbing. These tactics don’t reflect the values of a just or democratic society. They’re meant to intimidate, to silence, and to divide.
And it is deeply disturbing that this campaign of fear is being waged against the same people who, just a few years ago, were deemed essential. Now, they’re being treated as expendable. This is not just a farmworker issue. It’s a human rights issue. It’s a civil liberties issue. And it’s an existential threat to our farming community and the values we claim to hold.
Moreover, the Latino community is not separate from our identity—it is part of it. The cultural legacy of Mexican Americans is embedded in every aspect of life in Ventura County: from our neighborhoods and ranches to our schools, institutions, and local landmarks. You see it in the names of our towns, the streets we walk, and even in the legal descriptions of our properties, still tied to the original Spanish Land Grants. Mexican culture is American culture. To diminish, intimidate, or target this community is not just unjust—it’s an attack on the very fabric of who we are.
Ventura County’s agricultural workforce is vital—not just to our farms, but to the food systems that nourish the nation. These workers are not statistics. They are families, neighbors, and indispensable members of our communities. When they are afraid, our farms falter, supply chains suffer, and trust in public institutions breaks down.
Let’s be clear: even if the ICE raids on farms were to stop tomorrow, targeting people at shopping centers, grocery stores, restaurants, and along public roads is just as damaging—if not worse. These aren’t criminals—they're mothers buying diapers, grandfathers picking up medication, and essential workers grabbing dinner after a long shift. No one should live in fear of simply showing up to work or caring for their family. When fear drives people indoors, it doesn’t just slow the economy—it breaks the social contract that holds communities together.
This isn’t public safety. This is the systematic hunting and trapping of human beings. And it is wrong.
What is the endgame here?
• Because what I see is chaos with no upside:
• Raids at farms mean fewer hands to harvest crops.
• Fewer crops mean food rotting in the fields.
• That means higher prices at the grocery store and more imported food from countries with weaker labor and safety standards.
• That means our local farm economy—a cornerstone of Ventura County—takes a devastating hit.
And all for what? To terrorize the very people we just called "essential"?
Let’s be honest: this doesn’t make us safer. It makes us smaller. Less just. Less humane. And it pushes us further from the values we claim to stand for.
So again I ask: What is the goal?
Because if it’s to collapse our food system, weaken our economy, and strip human beings of dignity—then we are already dangerously close.
Thank you for listening. Let’s make sure our values show up in our actions.
Sincerely,
A Ventura County Farmer
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Good explainer of Breyer's opinion and where this will go
https://joycevance.substack.com/p/judge ... irect=true
https://joycevance.substack.com/p/judge ... irect=true
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I'll find it and post it. It was televised all over the place.
Here it is. Not fake news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzJOE5PLh24
Here it is. Not fake news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzJOE5PLh24
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Boy the Senate hearings when Noem has to go to the Hill to ask for supplemental funding for DHS are going to be awkward.
And we also need to keep in mind that a supplemental could be subject to a filibuster.
And we also need to keep in mind that a supplemental could be subject to a filibuster.


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NYT: On the video Mr. Padilla appeared stunned but repeatedly said he was a US Senator. Mr. Padilla said that he had demanded to know why he was detained and where he was being escorted to 'when of all people Cory Lewandowski, a combative former Trump aide and adviser to Ms Noem comes running down the hall and starts yelling, 'let him go, let him go'.
He recognized they had f***ed up.
He recognized they had f***ed up.
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Dont bother confusing ken with facts, word, logic or even video…..’cause you know, he has ‘common sense’.
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Dont bother confusing ken with facts, word, logic or even video…..’cause you know, he has ‘common sense’.
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Text has multiple videos included.
https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/theyre ... irect=true
https://statuskuo.substack.com/p/theyre ... irect=true
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Yes, there's video of Padilla standing, beginning his question and security shoving him that was taken by dozens of people, including media. There was zero excuse.
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When there's actual video we don't have to believe your bull*** lies anymore!
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#47's reply to the question of his policies(Stephen Miller's actually) have hurt the farmer's makes it seems like he is the benevolent one, when it's just to get people to think he is, so they will support him again.
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I can still remember a time when a federal officer putting their hands on an elected official was a career ending maneuver.


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Padilla was escorted into the room by Fed'l Agents, video shows that he stood up, introduced himself and did not rush the podium. When you base your statements on lies because you can't be bothered to check the actual footage you become a liar.
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'Senator' Padme is a fool and a con, he pulled a stunt to get attention and it backfired! After 2 near executions of Trump you don't rush a cabinet member with no proper ID aggressively, won't be allowed. Sit down and shut up clowns!
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Trump, in his own words, describing how his policies have hurt farmers and hotel and restaurant owners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzJOE5PLh24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzJOE5PLh24
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Judge Breyer, in a 36 page opinion, has ordered Trump to return control of Calif Nat'l Guard to Gov Newsom, citing that Trump's actions did not meet the bar of the la
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-al ... uard-case/
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-al ... uard-case/
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What happened today to Senator Padilla cannot stand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXXtF1Oelzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXXtF1Oelzo
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Trumps desire to have the military everywhere guarantee that there will be nowhere where the military is deployed in sufficient strength to be effective.


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Your tantrums make you look foolish and too emotional to think straight.
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